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ESA composer can be accessed through SDN if you work for an SAP partner or customer firm I guess. You will need to login on SDN using your S... ID. The link is =/partner/html/submitted_docs/esa/esa_ap/index.htm .See if it works for you.\\n\\nFirstly, ESA = SOA + business context. So when we are talking about ESA adoption, it means SOA plus business process oriented view of technology. ESA, itself is not a technology layer. It is a business focued approach to a services-oriented enterprise architecture adoption. So while all the patterns of SOA apply, ESA will talk about how to align business and IT. It will talk about IT governance models, for that matter. It will talk about how organizations need to realign for transforming into an agile enterprise. The ESA composer (can be compared to ASAP roadmap content) has a lot of content for organizations on ESA adoption phases. I am sure as more content and case studies are added, it will be easier to customers to adopt ESA.\\n\\nDoes that answer your question?\\n\\nRegards\\n\\n\\nMessage was edited by: Shehryar Khan\\n\",\"author\":\"username\":\"former.member\",\"displayName\":\"Former Member\",\"groupIcons\":[],\"suspended\":true,\"isCurrentUser\":false,\"parentAuthor\":\"username\":\"former.member\",\"displayName\":\"Former Member\",\"groupIcons\":[],\"suspended\":true,\"isCurrentUser\":false,\"id\":1266172,\"creationDate\":1142896560000,\"activeRevisionId\":3750938,\"lastActivity\":1142932220000,\"parentId\":1265746,\"originalParentId\":1250200,\"likeCount\":0,\"visibility\":\"full\",\"depth\":0,\"attachments\":[],\"canVoteUpOrCancel\":false,\"relations\":\"canReport\":false,\"visibility\":\"full\",\"canEdit\":false,\"canUseDelete\":false,\"isLiked\":false,\"type\":\"comment\",\"canVoteUpOrCancel\":false,\"canConvertToAnswer\":false,\"canBeModerated\":false,\"canViewRevisions\":false,\"showInReply\":false,\"reported\":false,\"canCancelReport\":false,\"canDelete\":false,\"canVoteDownOrCancel\":false,\"canComment\":false,\"canViewReports\":false,\"isCurrentUserAuthor\":false,\"liked\":false,\"moderatorComment\":false],\"1336601\":\"rootParentId\":1336601,\"commentsCount\":1,\"comments\":[\"body\":\"hi,\\n\\nyour catalogue sounds more like a professional enquiry than a discussion on a forum. therefore i reccomend\\n\\na) to contact a SAP sales representative to answer it\\nb) to hire an experienced consultant to answer it\\nc) to check the related \\nESA" target="_blank">www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/developerareas/esa">ESA area on SDN where numerous documentation can be found\\n\\nregards,\\nanton\",\"author\":\"username\":\"former.member\",\"displayName\":\"Former Member\",\"groupIcons\":[],\"suspended\":true,\"isCurrentUser\":false,\"parentAuthor\":\"username\":\"former.member\",\"displayName\":\"Former Member\",\"groupIcons\":[],\"suspended\":true,\"isCurrentUser\":false,\"id\":1337845,\"creationDate\":1146642621000,\"activeRevisionId\":3808766,\"lastActivity\":1146642621000,\"parentId\":1336601,\"originalParentId\":1250200,\"likeCount\":0,\"visibility\":\"full\",\"depth\":0,\"attachments\":[],\"canVoteUpOrCancel\":false,\"relations\":\"canReport\":false,\"visibility\":\"full\",\"canEdit\":false,\"canUseDelete\":false,\"isLiked\":false,\"type\":\"comment\",\"canVoteUpOrCancel\":false,\"canConvertToAnswer\":false,\"canBeModerated\":false,\"canViewRevisions\":false,\"showInReply\":false,\"reported\":false,\"canCancelReport\":false,\"canDelete\":false,\"canVoteDownOrCancel\":false,\"canComment\":false,\"canViewReports\":false,\"isCurrentUserAuthor\":false,\"liked\":false,\"moderatorComment\":false]}"); 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XI being an ESB?Axel Angeli has already published two articles on this topic. He mentions that XI falls in middleware category and not ESB. By definition, "ESB is a paradigm that describes a self-organizing way of distributed and asynchronous execution of transactions within an enterprise. Contrary to the classic middleware model, the ESB does not centrally control other processes, but rather orchestrates the execution".XI, on the other hand, is pretty much focused on mapping, conversions, and routing of messages, which characterizes middleware products. For more information, try searching SDN Library for "Axel Angeli".2. Is ESA composer tool like NetWeaver Developer Studio or its enhanced version of Composite Apps Framework?ESA composer is a set of intellectual assets, like ASAP Roadmap for SAP project planning and execution, that allows organizations to plan and follow an ESA roadmap for themselves. The idea is to give organizations guiding principles in relation to ESA adoption.3. Whether ESA has got some patterns like SOA?Could you explain your question a bit?RegardsShehryar\",\"author\":\"username\":\"former.member\",\"displayName\":\"Former Member\",\"groupIcons\":[],\"suspended\":true,\"isCurrentUser\":false,\"id\":1262999,\"posted\":1142610610000,\"votes\":0,\"isAccepted\":false,\"isLocked\":false,\"userVoted\":\"\",\"relations\":\"canCancelAccept\":false,\"canUnlock\":false,\"canUseDelete\":false,\"canVoteDownOrCancel\":false,\"canLock\":false,\"canAccept\":false,\"type\":\"answer\",\"canVoteUpOrCancel\":false,\"isCurrentUserAuthor\":false,\"attachments\":[],\"body\":\"ESA is just a SAP SOA implementation like 100 other SOA vendors. Because SAP is the world-wide enterprise architecture the SAP ESA is also the world-wide enterprise services de-facto standard. It means SAP ESA covers all industries and cross applications - really it will happen by 2007?\\nLook at SAP Solution Composer how ESA provides services and how you can create your own ESA services!\\nSOA is just model for provider/consumer that developed many enterprise integration during 1977 - 2000. Now Web Services with a set of standards BPEL, WSDL, UDDI, SOAP etc. come the final solution of enterprise integration.\",\"author\":\"username\":\"former.member\",\"displayName\":\"Former Member\",\"groupIcons\":[],\"suspended\":true,\"isCurrentUser\":false,\"id\":1276123,\"posted\":1143345427000,\"votes\":0,\"isAccepted\":false,\"isLocked\":false,\"userVoted\":\"\",\"relations\":\"canCancelAccept\":false,\"canUnlock\":false,\"canUseDelete\":false,\"canVoteDownOrCancel\":false,\"canLock\":false,\"canAccept\":false,\"type\":\"answer\",\"canVoteUpOrCancel\":false,\"isCurrentUserAuthor\":false,\"attachments\":[],\"body\":\"Hello All- \\nI was just observing this post. 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